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Ik gebruik ook vaak de Engelse taal hier, maar dan vooral omdat de vertalingen soms echt voor onzin zorgen...

@enigma Ja, die vertaalmachines zijn echt niet optimaal...

Teresa Seia

An excellent choice of subject here! Regarding the use of English, I found myself facing a somewhat opposite dilema when answering or commenting texts written in Portuguese or in Spanish, that is, deciding whether to use English or the language chosen by my... Show moreAn excellent choice of subject here! Regarding the use of English, I found myself facing a somewhat opposite dilema when answering or commenting texts written in Portuguese or in Spanish, that is, deciding whether to use English or the language chosen by my interlocutor. To keep myself 'in the same conversation' with everybody I chose compromise as I almost always do 😉, often writing something in Portuguese/Spanish and continuing in English or vice versa. Moreover, as you, yourself, and others, said, using English is good practice and makes interaction more lively (sadly for me, I couldn't seize all the richness of the limerick rhymes in the yoorsjanuary2021 challenge). This is without prejudice of translations. Very useful tools and without them, I would have never been able to navigate through the Dutch World haha!! Speaking of which: like @Mónica , I feel that my knowledge of very short sentences in Dutch is improving...some words are similar to German words, others remind me of English, so in the end it is also a good exercise to try to discover by yourself and then confirm with the translation button (thank you again, Babita and Yoors team!) or otherwise (reading the comments I learned about translators I wasn't aware of, great!). End of speech!😁

@Teresa Seia Thank you for your nice compliments! Yes, it's all about compromises, haha. It's true that it's difficult with poems etc. But eventually, we learn! So we can have lots more fun on Yoors later on! Thank you so much! 😉

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ElisabethsMagazine

I just keep writing in Dutch. Don't do my best. The translation option is a nice tool.

@ElisabethsKitchen 👩‍🍳🔪 Certainly nice that the translation option is there!

Madeleine

I get that from Jan Smit. He already performed as a little boy in Germany and children pick up a language very quickly. That would be easier if we had to learn another language in adulthood. Our youngest son has been watching video from an early age and the... Show moreI get that from Jan Smit. He already performed as a little boy in Germany and children pick up a language very quickly. That would be easier if we had to learn another language in adulthood. Our youngest son has been watching video from an early age and the result is that he likes the English course at school so much that he wants to become an English teacher or a policeman. 😁 He also speaks weekly to people from England in online groups on the gaming platform. Whole conversations take place. I always like how he communicates with them, especially since there is also spoken in English in different dialects.

@Madeleine Yes, that's so natural.. You can raise children two- or trilingual even! Your youngest son will know fluent English and who knows German. In the past, all the technology such as the Internet and apps was not there, so in that respect, the youth is definitely in the favor of!

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Mónica

I always said the longer I am here the easier it is becoming to understand small dutch texts. When it gets too long then my brain decides that it's enough haha. But thanks to Afrikaans a lot of Dutch words are understandable and with time others are becoming... Show moreI always said the longer I am here the easier it is becoming to understand small dutch texts. When it gets too long then my brain decides that it's enough haha. But thanks to Afrikaans a lot of Dutch words are understandable and with time others are becoming recognizable too.
In a way I am lucky because with being Portuguese I can understand some Spanish, with being able to speak Afrikaans I can can understand some Dutch. And then English, I did my schooling in it and we are an English speaking household.

But let me tell you, I still make mistakes. There are days I can only think in another language, there are days I mix two of the languages and others I mix all 3.

The important thing is to keep trying.

@Mónica Wow, i envy you for speaking those languages! Must be difficult sometimes though... Afrikaans is very like Dutch of course, so i can understand Afrikaans very well. Depending on your emotions, you choose the most primary language. Especially when you are angry, haha.

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LWAlmanak

Haha, Yoors as an educational institution, can@Henkjan de Krijgeragain beautifully put on his curriculum Vitae

@LWAlmanak Een soort LOI maar dan net even anders, haha!

Bij Ann

ik merk bij veel mensen die een engelse post hebben de vertaler niet
aanstaat

@Bij Ann Ja, dat is nog niet optimaal geloof ik...

marijke

I'll try yes and otherwise I'll have it translated by Mr. Google. Couple of months ago, I always skipped that I don't..

@marijke No, you do need that. For Spanish I often use it.

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Chalija

Mooie ontwikkeling voor ons allemaal

@Chalija Helemaal mee eens, dank je wel!

Paula Martins

"who knows how many times I would have written it wrong."-I never understood people that are so proud, that they can´t stand being corrected, even with a simple suggestion. I always thought these people were stupid. they are missing an opportunity of, ... Show more"who knows how many times I would have written it wrong."-I never understood people that are so proud, that they can´t stand being corrected, even with a simple suggestion. I always thought these people were stupid. they are missing an opportunity of, absolutely for free, learning something. By not being corrected, they will continue doing everything wrong

@Paula Martins I totally agree! Sometimes i send a private message to people when they made a little writing error. With the very best intentions. Many times people got angry, so those people don't get a message from me anymore, when they make a little (or big) error.

Frutselen in de Marge

I doe zink wii leer a lot ;)
(Bewust )

@missmuhimu Jes, ai ken sie det 😉

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Maria

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I think we're all adapting...can you imagine for me that I speak spanish....sometimes I don't know whether to post in Dutch or English, comments arrive in different languages...now with the translator in the comments, I have given myself the freedom to... Show moreI think we're all adapting...can you imagine for me that I speak spanish....sometimes I don't know whether to post in Dutch or English, comments arrive in different languages...now with the translator in the comments, I have given myself the freedom to respond in spanish...it's faster for me and everyone can understand....thank God things improve and we can within the Yoors community, learn and understand other languages, so they are simple fraces

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@pitamaria2000 You're right about that, too.. We all try to adapt and if something is unclear, we can ask each other. So write in the language that is most comfortable for you and everything will be fine.

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Albert van den Berg

No, man, not ashamed of anything. I do a lot through translation site DeepL, I can read some languages reasonably but write.....pppfff
Jan Smit and Koeman took expensive private lessons, they were also a lot younger. Koeman used to play in Spain so he already knew that language.
Go on in your own way and then you will automatically learn.

@Albert van den Berg 🇵🇹🇳🇱 Okay, so I didn't know that site. Thanks to you, I always get to know new websites, haha. Well, knowing a little bit of everything is more than enough, although 'everything' is not needed. Well, those private lessons, I g... Show more@Albert van den Berg 🇵🇹🇳🇱 Okay, so I didn't know that site. Thanks to you, I always get to know new websites, haha. Well, knowing a little bit of everything is more than enough, although 'everything' is not needed. Well, those private lessons, I guess.. I didn't know about Koeman but I've never been such an athlete either, haha. We'll just go through here and we'll be fine.. 😉

Diaantje 🦋

I agree with you, because you regularly write English texts and/or give comments here, it will automatically become more and more personal and it will be easier. I even translated (short) sentences into Spanish today and so responded. Well, whether translate... Show moreI agree with you, because you regularly write English texts and/or give comments here, it will automatically become more and more personal and it will be easier. I even translated (short) sentences into Spanish today and so responded. Well, whether translate has it right? At work I also speak in English regularly, especially Polish patients usually speak reasonably English and sometimes it is useful to be able to communicate in this way.. Yoors was invented by a Dutchman, but I think it was Henk Jan's wish to go internationally. We as Dutch people are just people who adapt well and really make the effort to speak a different language. I also have to look for the correct spelling less often, you really get used to it. Talking in another language is easier, because then you won't hear a writing error 😉

@DiaantjesLife 🦋 Yeah, that's really automatic, that's the nice thing about. Translating from and to Spanish I also do regularly and idd with the help of a translation machine (here also 'translator' sounds better, haha). All I know in the meantime is gr... Show more@DiaantjesLife 🦋 Yeah, that's really automatic, that's the nice thing about. Translating from and to Spanish I also do regularly and idd with the help of a translation machine (here also 'translator' sounds better, haha). All I know in the meantime is gracias, haha. Now I hear the tune of the TV show, Ivo Niehe, another language wonder haha. Yes, as a trading people, it is the NL-er's own to adapt. That Henkjan wants to go internationally was already clear to me because there were already a number of users from various countries. Talking is easier than writing, haha 😉

Encaustichris

fun! We learn here every day! I'm fine in English, for other languages Google is my friend... 😊

@Encaustichris Definitely! Personally, I always use translation. now. (not sponsored) Then I open one for 'sentences translation' Spanish-Dutch and one for Dutch-Spanish, haha. That saves a lot of clicks. I'll try English out of my head.

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Ingrid

Right, you don't learn language from booklets. School German for example is different from the real German. That I speak quite fluently (does not want to claim perfect, but can handle it well). But that's because I live pretty close to the border. And in the... Show moreRight, you don't learn language from booklets. School German for example is different from the real German. That I speak quite fluently (does not want to claim perfect, but can handle it well). But that's because I live pretty close to the border. And in the old days, when I was young (ahem) there were far fewer television channels than today available at our home. The “Ferienprogram” on the German channel was my TV entertainment. I've learned a lot from that.
About the beginning of your post: “We are here in NL”. Don't forget that Belgians have been members for quite some time:) I love how the (most) members who have signed up from abroad integrate here. Being super 'established', already in a relatively short time.

@Ingrid Tips en meer Good thing you know German, that's what I read in your submission of the “love letter to yourself challenge.”. Id you used to have only 2 Nl channels (later 3) and a stray German transmitter with moderate image, at least, in the north of ... Show more@Ingrid Tips en meer Good thing you know German, that's what I read in your submission of the “love letter to yourself challenge.”. Id you used to have only 2 Nl channels (later 3) and a stray German transmitter with moderate image, at least, in the north of the country. So you'll probably pick it up better, especially if you're still young like you 😉😉 But I don't deny that many people from Belgium are sitting on this. What I'm saying is that we are here in NL and can speak our language which is actually their language.. It is Dutch Belgium or Dutch. The low countries used to be the Netherlands and Belgium. Suppose people from French-speaking Belgium, Wallonia join us, does not mean that we should speak French. That's what I mean by “We're here in NL”. Of course I think it is so nice to - at least try - adapt to people with a different language than the Dutch and then English is preferred as the most spoken language.