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Christmas in Deventer without Dickens feast
Every year here in Deventer is a huge gathering around the Dickens party. Unfortunately that could not continue this year but they have made something beautiful out of it.
Whether it's your taste or not, it does make the city come to life in a different way. My daughter wanted to take a look yesterday and scrooge was just present in the city. Beautifully lit as a statue.
The whole of Deventer contained large illuminated images, and this has been the case for a few weeks now. Despite the fact that there is no shop open, the city is still relatively busy. Plenty of space to walk and enjoy, but not enough to take pictures without others in the picture...
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Ja, zo leuk! Deventer is echt een festivalstad, zo ontzettend veel moois elk jaar! Dickens, boekenmarkt, muziek op de markt, Deventer op stelten. Festival op de worp, Deventer stadsfestival ..... en dan vergeet ik er nog een heel aantal .....
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Heel sfeervol! Leuk dat mensen ondanks alles er toch wat van maken!
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That looks great!! I was wondering if Deventer is named after a person? Because in South Africa "van Deventer" is a surname.
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@Mónica Deventer is a city with 100.000 citizens, it was already big in 1400ad. So I think this name leads back to someone that has his roots in the Netherlands (or Amerika where there is another Deventer) where it is common to have a city as last name. ... Show more@Mónica Deventer is a city with 100.000 citizens, it was already big in 1400ad. So I think this name leads back to someone that has his roots in the Netherlands (or Amerika where there is another Deventer) where it is common to have a city as last name. Napoleon wanted everyone to have a last name therefore they were chosen a bit random in those years...
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@Mónica As an amateur historian, I really love to hear this. Is there in your neigbourhood anything to find that relates to a Dutch history? I would love to hear that (even the stories that are not so nice). Maybe a Blog with foto's?

@peerke70 The first thing that comes to mind is the Castle of Good Hope it is the oldest building in South Africa first built as a fort by the Dutch. Here is a link to more information. I'm not sure I would do a history blog justice, but I will try and give... Show more@peerke70 The first thing that comes to mind is the Castle of Good Hope it is the oldest building in South Africa first built as a fort by the Dutch. Here is a link to more information. I'm not sure I would do a history blog justice, but I will try and give it a go when I have more time after the festive season.
https://www.colonialvoyage.com/dutch-south-africa/
You could also watch this video for a tour.
https://youtu.be/Ji9qc4mEngY
Impressive to think how many years it has been there and how it has been used and changed as the years changed.
https://www.colonialvoyage.com/dutch-south-africa/
You could also watch this video for a tour.
https://youtu.be/Ji9qc4mEngY
Impressive to think how many years it has been there and how it has been used and changed as the years changed.
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@peerke70 when we arrived in South Africa in 1991 I remember notes that had Jan van Riebeecks face on them. We were also taught a song about him. Unfortunately now he is seen by many in a negative light and often gets blamed for all the problems we have now. But I will let you read that and come to your own conclusions.

@Mónica Ik heb hier in Nederland het Jan van Riebeeck museum een mail gestuurd met de vraag om meer informatie. Het lijkt er op dat Culemborg (zijn geboorteplaats) een hele goede band heeft met Zuid Afrika. (onder de tafelberg moet ergens de markt van ... Show more@Mónica Ik heb hier in Nederland het Jan van Riebeeck museum een mail gestuurd met de vraag om meer informatie. Het lijkt er op dat Culemborg (zijn geboorteplaats) een hele goede band heeft met Zuid Afrika. (onder de tafelberg moet ergens de markt van Culemborg nagebouwd zijn geweest, of daar nog iets van over is gebleven weet ik niet). Ik weet niet of je dit leuk vindt om bij betrokken te zijn, maar ik vind dit dus geweldig. Mocht je het niets vinden, dan is dat ook prima.

@peerke70 I must be honest, I had never heard of the Culemborg market. The University of Cape Town has this information on it... Show more@peerke70 I must be honest, I had never heard of the Culemborg market. The University of Cape Town has this information on it
https://digitalcollections.lib.uct.ac.za/collection/islandora-17396
But that is from the 1950s so not sure if thats what you meant.
The Castle of Good Hope was a place where travellers from the VOC could rest and get food, so it might be this market.
Wikipedia isn't always the best source of information, but I have read through it and from what we learnt at school it seems accurate, so I'm going to share the link aswell. There might be something in there that interests you.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Riebeeck
He also have a school, suburb and street named after him. But mentioned on Wikipedia the current ruling party which has been in power since 1994 seem to fail to see that he actually helped build Cape Town, a city which brings in millions of Rands in tourism alone, more than any other city in South Africa, so all these little details about him are being "erased" for lack of a better word.
https://digitalcollections.lib.uct.ac.za/collection/islandora-17396
But that is from the 1950s so not sure if thats what you meant.
The Castle of Good Hope was a place where travellers from the VOC could rest and get food, so it might be this market.
Wikipedia isn't always the best source of information, but I have read through it and from what we learnt at school it seems accurate, so I'm going to share the link aswell. There might be something in there that interests you.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Riebeeck
He also have a school, suburb and street named after him. But mentioned on Wikipedia the current ruling party which has been in power since 1994 seem to fail to see that he actually helped build Cape Town, a city which brings in millions of Rands in tourism alone, more than any other city in South Africa, so all these little details about him are being "erased" for lack of a better word.

@Mónica He was not really the person that made slavery big, he just had to create a settlement near cape town. And doing this he made a lot of things possible that we hate right now. But that was not his work. Nevertheless, I think in his days he didn't ... Show more@Mónica He was not really the person that made slavery big, he just had to create a settlement near cape town. And doing this he made a lot of things possible that we hate right now. But that was not his work. Nevertheless, I think in his days he didn't understand the implications of his actions, furthermore it was a great achievement, to do what he did in his days. By the way, this market was to celebrate 300 years of contact between Culemborg and South Africa, so 1950 could be quite correct.
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@peerke70 You could also take a look at how the Dutch used Robben Island.
https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/robben-island
I enjoy History too!
https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/robben-island
I enjoy History too!

@peerke70 Yes and Cape Town recognises the good he did, which is why his name stays here, Cape Town and the whole of the Western Cape is governed by a different political party than the rest of South Africa, because the ruling party of the country would have... Show more@peerke70 Yes and Cape Town recognises the good he did, which is why his name stays here, Cape Town and the whole of the Western Cape is governed by a different political party than the rest of South Africa, because the ruling party of the country would have changed all the things with his name on it a long time ago.
Slavery was wrong, but I also agree that he did not start it. He took Cape Town and built a city maybe his methods were not always correct I am sure, but he definitely deserves some credit for developing it.
Unfortunately the ANC and the EFF political parties teach their followers differently.
Slavery was wrong, but I also agree that he did not start it. He took Cape Town and built a city maybe his methods were not always correct I am sure, but he definitely deserves some credit for developing it.
Unfortunately the ANC and the EFF political parties teach their followers differently.
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mooi verlicht is het zeker
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@missmuhimu voor mij iets overdreven, maar ach een keertje per jaar mag het toch?

Zo'n lichtinstallaties zijn altijd prachtig om te zien rond deze tijd van het jaar. In Brugge heb je ook Wintergloed. We zijn er dit jaar nog niet geraakt, vanwege covid. Al een paar keer veel te druk geweest, ze hebben het zelfs al een paar keer afgelast.
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Wat mooi! Lijkt me eerlijk gezegd leuker om Deventer nu te bezoeken dan in de drukte van het Dickens feest. Ben al verschillende jaren in Kampen geweest en daar was het dan zo druk dat je alleen door de straten kon schuifelen.
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@jolandemooij in Deventer laten ze steeds een aantal mensen de Dickens straten in. Je staat lang te wachten, maar je hebt wel de ruimte bij het festijn zelf! Vroeg in de ochtend of laat in de middag, dan hoef je minder lang te wachten.





Mooie. In elke stad heeft hij zichzelf opnieuw uitgevonden om de kerstsfeer niet te laten sterven ondanks de omstandigheden🎄
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