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Recently wrote @Henkjan de Krijger the blog: What's wrong with our Yoors?
This blog got me thinking about what's happening here and what I think about it.
As I type this blog, all kinds of things haunt through my chaotic head...
The thing I absolutely don't want is for people to feel insulted or personally attacked, but I really need something from the heart.
This writing is certainly not an attack on certain people here on Yoors, but an impetus to take a deep look at yourself.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I think your approach was very balanced and I agree with the points you make. Interesting, well-researched and original content will always be a win for everyone -- for the reader, for Yoors and in the long run even for... Show moreThank you for sharing your thoughts! I think your approach was very balanced and I agree with the points you make. Interesting, well-researched and original content will always be a win for everyone -- for the reader, for Yoors and in the long run even for the creator. Rushed and copied content might seem beneficial for the creator at first, but it's really not. It drives away potential readers willing to give higher rewards and it damages the platform itself, meaning that in the end everyone loses. With the expansion of gamification features on Yoors, such as boosters and pools, I think we've seen both good and bad emerge from it. To be honest, I've personally been wrestling recently with mixed feelings about the impact of gamification, but what I am realising more and more is that, really, tools are just tools; it's how we use them that makes the difference. Whatever system is set up on Yoors, we can always approach it from a place of trying to produce great original content or from a place of trying to "work the system" for short-term gain. So you are right in highlighting the importance of people taking a good look within and deciding what kind of actions and impact they want to have. I do think that this goes both ways, though. As readers, we also have to take a look at our actions and see if we are making an extra effort to find the good content that is out there, even if it is washed away quickly from the main page, and to reward it accordingly. Speaking for myself, I try to give a little extra to posts and creators that I think are worthy, and I strive to always leave a comment under posts I like, because I feel like that's also an important form of encouragement. I make a very sparing use of fairshare, but occasionally, if a post strikes me as really exceptional, I share it. But even now I am reflecting on whether I can do more in giving to creators more accordingly to what I think they deserve. In this regard, I feel sometimes with the point system of Yoors it's easy to forget what they are actually worth in terms of euros. For example, 1000 points might seem like a lot but at the end of the day it's 1 euro. I think many of us would drop 1 euro in the hat of a street musician whose music we appreciated; but giving 1000 points on Yoors feels a lot more daunting, given the scale of the "local" economy. Anyway, sorry for having rambled on so much here but your post made some good points that got me thinking too. 🙂
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@Adriana I totally agree in what you commented here... I also think that is fair to give points to good content but what is good content? This is a very difficult one because everyone has a different point of view and taste of reading or writing. When people... Show more@Adriana I totally agree in what you commented here... I also think that is fair to give points to good content but what is good content? This is a very difficult one because everyone has a different point of view and taste of reading or writing. When people start looking on how they create, they know if it's their own content and wether they can be proud of themselves or just being a copycat.
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@Mevrouw Stip... You are right, what makes good content is to a great extent a very subjective call but that is okay and even good. Since we don't all like the same things in the same way, we can all reward different creators. The basis of good content,... Show more@Mevrouw Stip... You are right, what makes good content is to a great extent a very subjective call but that is okay and even good. Since we don't all like the same things in the same way, we can all reward different creators. The basis of good content, however, I think is always the same: originality and uniqueness, research when needed, putting care in what you do, linking the the creator of any content that is not your own and making sure you have permission to share it. 🙂
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Mrs Stip has spoken! I totally agree with what you write!

I agree with you, but basically we already have the moderation tool for that. For example, with copied content, this tool can be used. If we do not, we also have a little to blame ourselves...

@The Original Enrique Dat is gedeeltelijk waar, maar als content creator wil ik mij ook weer niet dagelijks bezighouden met alle gekopieerde content te melden, dan geeft het negeren ervan mij meer rust dan het telkens te moeten melden.
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@The Original Enrique helaas zie ik dat een plagiaatartikel alsnog goedgekeurd wordt bij de moderatietool.
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@Mevrouw Stip... @NOOS Happy Words Kortom, niet te druk over maken allemaal. 😉 Het is een keuze natuurlijk; Of klagen en er wat aan doen, of er niets aan doen maar dan ook niet klagen. We hebben de instrumenten immers.
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@The Original Enrique blijkbaar werkt dat instrument onvoldoende. Als een artikel 98% plagiaat scoort, dan zou het afgekeurd moeten worden bij de moderatie en dat is niet het geval.
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@NOOS Happy Words Dan controleren de Yoorsies misschien niet goed genoeg? Het is min of meer een democratisch proces met het eindoordeel bij het Yoors-team. Een andere manier is om geen hartjes aan dit soort posts te geven. Uiteindelijk verdwijnen copycats altijd weer uit beeld, omdat ze zichzelf uit de markt prijzen...
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I largely agree with you, as for the “multiwriters”, who daily can post a large number of blogs on topics with large boosters. But they probably see a real source of income in this, since in their country 20 euros is a huge amount of money, with which you can... Show moreI largely agree with you, as for the “multiwriters”, who daily can post a large number of blogs on topics with large boosters. But they probably see a real source of income in this, since in their country 20 euros is a huge amount of money, with which you can do a lot. Hence probably the large growth of members from that region.
Like you, I often notice that they don't really respond to your content, because either they don't bother to read your content (sometimes they just respond to the header picture even)or because the translator makes something incomprehensible out of it.
Because of the large numbers you can't keep up with what you really want to read, unless you come check every hour. (Which I don't have time for.)
As for plagiarism, I'm not really concerned with the moderation tool.. I myself am also someone who works a little more thoroughly and 'reads' me in on a topic before I dedicate a blog to it.. I do not write about Dutch cities either, since I am Belgian, just like you, and sometimes annoy me by the blogs that appear in certain pools. If you do not know the term, do not devote a post to it than give your own interpretation to it.. (Hence my article on #longread for example.)
Those followers, I think they are also for a large number of 'blank profiles', because if someone gets to Yoors via your link and makes a login, they will automatically be linked to your account as a follower, while that person may have only read one of your blog. (I sometimes see new members appearing as a follower, who just ended up on one of my blogs via social media and which I do not know at all. So they chose absolutely not consciously to follow me...)
For the rest: you definitely have your own punk style, recognizable through! I see you, like me, are from the same group. (2017)We zagen Yoors veranderen, evolueren, internationaler worden... and as with many things: each advantage has its drawback.
Good, well thought-out blog you wrote...
Like you, I often notice that they don't really respond to your content, because either they don't bother to read your content (sometimes they just respond to the header picture even)or because the translator makes something incomprehensible out of it.
Because of the large numbers you can't keep up with what you really want to read, unless you come check every hour. (Which I don't have time for.)
As for plagiarism, I'm not really concerned with the moderation tool.. I myself am also someone who works a little more thoroughly and 'reads' me in on a topic before I dedicate a blog to it.. I do not write about Dutch cities either, since I am Belgian, just like you, and sometimes annoy me by the blogs that appear in certain pools. If you do not know the term, do not devote a post to it than give your own interpretation to it.. (Hence my article on #longread for example.)
Those followers, I think they are also for a large number of 'blank profiles', because if someone gets to Yoors via your link and makes a login, they will automatically be linked to your account as a follower, while that person may have only read one of your blog. (I sometimes see new members appearing as a follower, who just ended up on one of my blogs via social media and which I do not know at all. So they chose absolutely not consciously to follow me...)
For the rest: you definitely have your own punk style, recognizable through! I see you, like me, are from the same group. (2017)We zagen Yoors veranderen, evolueren, internationaler worden... and as with many things: each advantage has its drawback.
Good, well thought-out blog you wrote...

@enigma Thank you... I prefer to keep doing my own thing, in principle I can also start writing about a particular city or region without ever being there or feeling with it, but that's really not the intention, what I don't understand is that sometimes I... Show more @enigma Thank you... I prefer to keep doing my own thing, in principle I can also start writing about a particular city or region without ever being there or feeling with it, but that's really not the intention, what I don't understand is that sometimes I try to help people because a translation simply goes into the fog and absolutely nothing is changed about the blog in question. If an ingredient in a recipe blog is translated so mistakenly that you use raw sprouts in your cream cake and someone asks himself a question about this, you wave it away as insignificant, then I doubt you are proud of “your” recipe...

@Mevrouw Stip... That is indeed something you, as a creator, who stands behind your own content, would immediately change!

Well written. Spamming with simple often borrowed content is a thorn in my eye.
Judging by the reactions, some people also don't understand how it works. Boosterhunters are there.
It looks a bit like the Chinese shops here in Portugal, a lot, very cheap, but a lot of junk in between and the fun goes off quickly.
Judging by the reactions, some people also don't understand how it works. Boosterhunters are there.
It looks a bit like the Chinese shops here in Portugal, a lot, very cheap, but a lot of junk in between and the fun goes off quickly.

@Albert van den Berg Boosterhunten seems at the moment a bit the new trend here...😥

@Mevrouw Stip... I still have to see how it works but I'd love to make blogs where the creator gets the booster. If a reaction has value, I give hearts and then adjust them in... Show more @Mevrouw Stip... I still have to see how it works but I'd love to make blogs where the creator gets the booster. If a reaction has value, I give hearts and then adjust them in values.
I sometimes get reactions that think, what's this about now?. That has little to do with my blog. Then goes to the points.
Let people not misunderstand me, there are also very interesting new people who deliver good blogs and respond sincerely.
I sometimes get reactions that think, what's this about now?. That has little to do with my blog. Then goes to the points.
Let people not misunderstand me, there are also very interesting new people who deliver good blogs and respond sincerely.

@Albert van den Berg At the moment, it seems better to me to distribute boosters to people who create good content than to a particular topic 😊

I agree with you on a lot of points. A rush has emerged from South America that writes on everything and everything to rake in as much as possible. The homepage runs from it.the result is that I only go to look at people I follow, which also leaves beautiful blogs from other bloggers.

@diniedezeeuw I sometimes find people no longer because of the many “other” blogs 😂


Nailed it!!
I also had a laugh because I don't know what the gouda hashtag means, the only gouda I know is also the cheese haha
I also had a laugh because I don't know what the gouda hashtag means, the only gouda I know is also the cheese haha
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@Mónica Yes, it's hard to make good blogs anyway, there's a lot of time and energy in it, but when there are people who take a picture from google, copy a text that they don't even understand what it's about, then translate it with a “bad” translator, you get worthless content and that's not the intention

hello!
You're absolutely right, I know a little English and when it comes to translating it's complicated, however if I wrote in spanish not everyone will understand me. Translators aren't very good as we say.
You're absolutely right, I know a little English and when it comes to translating it's complicated, however if I wrote in spanish not everyone will understand me. Translators aren't very good as we say.

@darimelurdaneta For me, it is better for someone to create good content in their language than for someone to copy, translate and put existing content on this platform. Make a good article and I'll translate it myself.


es muy cierto lo que manifiestas, soy latino y deseo ir mejorando, tengo un poco mas de una semana y he tratado de dar a conocer y compartir lo nuestro, la realidad de nuestro país como protagonista que soy, las criticas o sugerencias que haz dado permiten hacernos una auto evaluación y empezar a dar lo mejor de nosotros
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@naf1971naf When you start a fun, well-founded topic yourself, there will automatically be a reward or a pool will be started so be a creator, no copier please

@Mevrouw Stip... gracias tomare en cuenta tus comentarios y sugerencias

I now also read about Gouda cheese......in my eyes that's Alkmaar because that's where I went to the cheese market. I think Gouda equals candles. But good that aside. I know what you mean by that.. I see boosters at least who is reporting Henkjan I am not... Show moreI now also read about Gouda cheese......in my eyes that's Alkmaar because that's where I went to the cheese market. I think Gouda equals candles. But good that aside. I know what you mean by that.. I see boosters at least who is reporting Henkjan I am not going to make a post for that because otherwise I would not have done that either.. I sit on yoors just because I like it. I only write from my own experience and do not search for anything. And because I like what you do and write.💖😘
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Tienes toda la razón.👍
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@ELINA RICKURA Dank u... gewoon eigen unieke dingen maken, zo moeilijk is het niet

Creo que tienes razon en muchas cosas y respeto tu opinion, para mi como latina del otro lado del mundo, cuando veo muchas de las pool, que ademas como bien dices la traduccion no nos ayuda mucho, muchas de estas piscinas son sobre lugares de holanda y... Show moreCreo que tienes razon en muchas cosas y respeto tu opinion, para mi como latina del otro lado del mundo, cuando veo muchas de las pool, que ademas como bien dices la traduccion no nos ayuda mucho, muchas de estas piscinas son sobre lugares de holanda y tienes razon no las conocemos, ojala pudieramos algun dia conocerlas y tratamos de saber de ellas a traves de intenet, si embargo estoy de acuerdo en darle un punto de vista diferente,como bien dices y tratar de ser creativos, tal vez si las pool que hablen de lugares geograficos fueran mas universales,habria mas oportunidad de hablar de nuestras especiencias en otros lugares, en otras culturas,esperiencias que resultaran mas atractivas por ser reales, si bien he escrito de muchos temas , yo personalmente pido escusas , si ultimamente la calidad de mis publicaciones, no estubo a la altura de lo que puedan esperar algunos miembros de esta web.Por otro lado tratare de esplicar la situacion de lo que ocurre en nuestros paises latinos, en especial en mi pais venezuela... muchos de los latinos que estamos aqui, no tenemos una vida facil, el caos economico nos ahoga y aunque no es escusa, para no ser creativo y no trato de justificarme, comemos con lo que hacemos aqui en esta pagina, pues los sueldos en este pais solo alcanzan para un paquete de arroz, esto no justifica, pero quizas pueda explicar un poco lo que pueda estar pasando...te agradezco y respeto tu opinion... en lo que a mi respecta mejorar mis publicaciones, gracias a todos por su paciencia y aceptarnos dentro de esta web
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@pitamaria2000 respect for your honest reaction!! I give you a better life, but believe me: rather write one original blog a week, than 7 in 1 day, and you will see that you are more appreciated! Quality yields more in the long term, in all respects. Good luck!

@Encaustichris thank you for your advice i'll take it into account

@pitamaria2000 When you write a blog straight from the heart and how you experience the problems in your country, your blog will be much more appreciated and there will be boosters of people who would like to read your writing anyway. If a blog is really... Show more @pitamaria2000 When you write a blog straight from the heart and how you experience the problems in your country, your blog will be much more appreciated and there will be boosters of people who would like to read your writing anyway. If a blog is really good, there are also people who give bigger hearts to that blog to support. Or better yet, personal boosters that are then given to you. Make it something personal, something only you can make, please don't be copycat. Good luck.

@Mevrouw Stip... gracia por tus palabras, estoy tratando de hacer lo mejor posible, se que tienes razon en muchas cosas...ojala hubiernan piscinas como te digo , mas universales en cuanto a la geografia, pero agradezco desde el corazon tus comentarios, te apoyo tienes razon en que debemos mejorar la calidad
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@pitamaria2000 The pole “venezuela” is still completely open. An excellent opportunity, I would say.

@pitamaria2000 If I'm not mistaken, there's a pool #venezuela where there are boosters

@pitamaria2000 If you start a nice topic yourself to blog about, there will automatically be a reward in the pool! Don't write because there's a reward on something. Making beautiful things yourself is much more appreciated!

@pitamaria2000 I appreciate and respect your honest and open approach to this. Although I can agree that some pools are very specific to the Netherlands, I don't think the problem arises from that fact. Indeed, I have seen content that is not original or... Show more@pitamaria2000 I appreciate and respect your honest and open approach to this. Although I can agree that some pools are very specific to the Netherlands, I don't think the problem arises from that fact. Indeed, I have seen content that is not original or very in-depth being posted in general pools too. The problem is not so much the topic, I think, but the approach. In my opinion, it's completely possible to write a wonderful, well-researched and even insightful post about something you don't necessarily have first-hand experience of. In fact, the writer's approach could be that of someone who is just starting to explore the topic or is curious about it. The most important questions to ask are: why am I writing about this and what is my unique, original contribution to this topic? But creating that kind of post does take time and effort and it can't be done multiple times a day, everyday. Another thing is, when using someone else's material to complement a post always making sure that the original author allows that kind of use and always, always, citing the source clearly with a direct link to it. This applies even to pictures, including the ones used for the header of a post. I do feel empathy towards the situation of economic hardship you describe and honestly I don't want to be quick to judge others, especially because we all come from very different environments and life situations. But I will say this: I don't believe that posting rushed and unoriginal content feels any more rewarding to the person doing it than it does to the person reading it, even if they can get a few extra points out of it. And in the end, it's something that hurts Yoors and could end up making us all lose the place we like so much. Bottom line, that's what's on the table here: deciding what kind of Yoors we want to be a part of and help build. These are just my reflections, but I hope they can be helpful for you.
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@Adriana Currently, the Polish are only used by some as a means to create YP in an easy way.
1 Photo small piece of text (sometimes) “borrowed” and thereby raise points.
This works, if the work, but very briefly.
Quality will pay out in readers and points and thus money.
1 Photo small piece of text (sometimes) “borrowed” and thereby raise points.
This works, if the work, but very briefly.
Quality will pay out in readers and points and thus money.


@ellesvandenbroek he hecho cosas por mi misma y el grupo me ha apoyado, solo intento esplicar que puede estar pasando,seguramente tomare en cuenta sus opiniones

@Adriana estoy de acuerdo con usted, solo quise tratar de dar una explicacion desde mi punto de vista, secillamente no todo lo que dije era respecto a mi, sin embargo agradezco su opinion,seguramente la tomare en cuenta, aunque sigo pensando que faltan otro... Show more@Adriana estoy de acuerdo con usted, solo quise tratar de dar una explicacion desde mi punto de vista, secillamente no todo lo que dije era respecto a mi, sin embargo agradezco su opinion,seguramente la tomare en cuenta, aunque sigo pensando que faltan otro tipo de pool, por ejemplo para hablar de latinoamerica, o problemas relacionados a ella, esta a la vista que yoors esta creciendo a otras geografias .
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@pitamaria2000 Yes, I understood that. In fact, I would dare to suggest that the reason so many people felt moved to respond to your comment was precisely the fact that you have also made positive contributions to Yoors, and people want to encourage that. I... Show more@pitamaria2000 Yes, I understood that. In fact, I would dare to suggest that the reason so many people felt moved to respond to your comment was precisely the fact that you have also made positive contributions to Yoors, and people want to encourage that. I can't speak for others, of course, but it certainly was that way for me. Nevertheless, since you raised these topics for discussion in your own comment I felt like I should share with you my thoughts on them. As for the pools, I agree with you that having more general pools would be the best way to go, especially now that Yoors is growing to be more international and less Dutch-specific. (Mis disculpas por no responderle en español, pero creo que más personas entenderán los comentarios de esta manera.)

@Albert van den Berg "Quality will pay out in readers and points and thus money." Agreed, though more and more I think this also invites a self-reflection on how we act as readers on the platform. If you have time and interest, I have written a bit more about this in my comment to Mevrouw Stip under this post.
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@pitamaria2000 the boosters always change, sometimes there is something between what appeals to you and sometimes not. With a typical Dutch term, it's probably going to be difficult to post anything, but so many hashtags are
can be used worldwide, by being creative and original. Think in possibilities.
can be used worldwide, by being creative and original. Think in possibilities.

@Mevrouw Stip... precisely! Speciality and originality is really appreciated and supported

@NOOS Happy Words muchas gracias por su comentario , es lo que he tratado de hacer,pero aun hay que mejorar, muchas gracias

@pitamaria2000 dat verbeteren doen we met elkaar, door zelf steeds kritisch te blijven

What a beautiful, straight from the heart, written blog. Completely fitting your way of posting and I can fully agree with it on many points, because precisely those high boosters should ensure that beautiful qualitative and original posts should be created,... Show moreWhat a beautiful, straight from the heart, written blog. Completely fitting your way of posting and I can fully agree with it on many points, because precisely those high boosters should ensure that beautiful qualitative and original posts should be created, but the opposite is true. Although I also notice that you have to learn how to create a beautiful blog and create your own style. All the beginning is difficult, but you will notice when the boosters are responded and written purely to the boosters.

@NOOS Happy Words The intention is indeed to create good content with or without booster and certainly always unique content. There are plenty of copycats, and that doesn't help anyone. There is a difference between learning and just throwing as much online as possible, so you notice when someone tries or when someone just wants to earn.

@Mevrouw Stip... that is certainly true! Striking to me is that even when an article by 98% indicates plagiarism in the plagiarism scanner, it still passes through the moderation tool as approved.

@NOOS Happy Words Yes, that bothers me a lot too...😔

@Mevrouw Stip... let's focus on our own blogs.

Hallelujah! Thank you, Mrs. Stip, I'm still working, but so agree with you.!

@Encaustichris I have to say that it took me about a whole day to get this on paper, but it does air up...😊

@Mevrouw Stip... it has become a fine post! I also played with the thought, but did not know how to write it. So I'm glad you did.. I hope it helps!

Thank you very much for this comprehensive feedback. I'm going to take it all with me and make improvements!

@Henkjan de Krijger You're welcome and this is of course how I see it, but you're already used to that of me to express my opinion in this way... 😊

@Mevrouw Stip... I think it's very nuanced..

@Henkjan de Krijger I've been thinking about it for a long time too...😊

The read was useful to me, thank you! I agree with you about the primordial importance of looking deep inside yourself (or so the translator says you said 😉, sometimes it's hard to seize the meaning of the posts...) and question your way of posting. I do be... Show moreThe read was useful to me, thank you! I agree with you about the primordial importance of looking deep inside yourself (or so the translator says you said 😉, sometimes it's hard to seize the meaning of the posts...) and question your way of posting. I do believe it helps in finding a better use of own resources to create content that reflects one's originality. And Yoors as a community can help...is helping, as we chat...
On a side note: I think wonders of your avatar!
On a side note: I think wonders of your avatar!

Dat heb je goed verwoord en kan ik me ook in vinden. Ook wat Henk Jan schreef over de gekopieerde teksten. Schrijf je eigen verhaal bij iets. Gebruik inderdaad een link daarbij, maar ga niet de helft van die pagina kopieëren. Ik kan dat dan ook niet verder ... Show moreDat heb je goed verwoord en kan ik me ook in vinden. Ook wat Henk Jan schreef over de gekopieerde teksten. Schrijf je eigen verhaal bij iets. Gebruik inderdaad een link daarbij, maar ga niet de helft van die pagina kopieëren. Ik kan dat dan ook niet verder lezen en reageren doe ik dan niet. Ik wil juist eigen verhalen schrijven en dat je er iets mee verdient is leuk, maar dat is zeker niet de reden om te schrijven. Ik ben 4 jaar geleden wel begonnen om mijn opbrengst te doneren en heb dat ook altijd gedaan. Tegenwoordig schrijf ik vooral omdat ik het zelf leuk vind en de reacties naar elkaar toe zijn geweldig. Ik zag alleen dat als je uitbetalingen wil houden, dan heb je een abonnement nodig zodra die beschikbaar zijn. Als je op je profiel naar 'archief' gaat, zie je alle mogelijkheden daarvoor. Of wist je dit al? Anyway, ik blijf lekker doen wat ik nu doe en dat is met veel plezier schrijven waarover ik kan/wil schrijven 😊

Je hebt zeker gelijk in wat je schrijft! Het valt mij ook dat er door mensen uit bepaalde landen hier op wordt ingesprongen. Net wat @enigma schrijft. Waarschijnlijk is het ook erg lastig om dit niet meer toe te laten. Tenslotte zijn de omstandigheden... Show moreJe hebt zeker gelijk in wat je schrijft! Het valt mij ook dat er door mensen uit bepaalde landen hier op wordt ingesprongen. Net wat @enigma schrijft. Waarschijnlijk is het ook erg lastig om dit niet meer toe te laten. Tenslotte zijn de omstandigheden erbarmelijk in die landen. Maar dat neemt niet weg dat het wel storend is qua blogaanbod wat je ziet en wilt lezen. Wie weet komt daar nog een andere oplossing voor? Datzelfde ervaar ik ook met fairshare waar je zelf een beloning aan kunt koppelen. Ook daar reageert een percentage mensen op die bv. geen of nauwelijks volgers hebben dus ja, ook dat voelt niet altijd tof. En die dan ook niks schrijft onder je blog..dat vind ik dan wel jammer.. je wil toch graag die interactie als dat even kan. Het systeem is denk ik wel te lastig om dit soort dingen te "tackelen" zeg maar.

Je hebt groot gelijk, maar ik herinner me het begin van Yoors waar er nieuwe leden werden geworven door de stelling: Hier verdien jij aan elke post die bekeken wordt en niet de 'Facebooken' van deze wereld. Het is dan ook normaal dat dit leden aantrekt die op een bijverdienste uit zijn.
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